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Rivi 17: | Rivi 17: | ||
Family elders are expressing disapproval of you to the rest of the family. Do you: | Family elders are expressing disapproval of you to the rest of the family. Do you: | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Accept the criticism and change your ways |
<br>{{WWBox}} Seek a compromise with the elders | <br>{{WWBox}} Seek a compromise with the elders | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Besmirch the reputation of the elders as you ignore their scorn | <br>{{WWBox}} Besmirch the reputation of the elders as you ignore their scorn | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Silence the elders any way you can | <br>{{WWBox}} Silence the elders any way you can | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Vanhat johtajat ovat viisaita, ja heidän neuvojaan noudatetaan kiitollisna. Vihainen ja tulinen palaute omista toimista Vanhimmilta on kunnon klaanilaiselle todella paha asia.''<br><br> |
Would you give up a promising career to aid the family in time of need? | Would you give up a promising career to aid the family in time of need? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} In a heartbeat | <br>{{WWBox}} In a heartbeat | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, with some reluctance |
<br>{{WWBox}} Only if I was certain I'd be able to return to my career soon | <br>{{WWBox}} Only if I was certain I'd be able to return to my career soon | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No | <br>{{WWBox}} No | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Haluan menestyä, mutta tietenkin klaani tulee ensimmäisenä''<br><br> |
Would you betray a family member to advance your own career? | Would you betray a family member to advance your own career? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, without a twinge of guilt | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, without a twinge of guilt | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, if I could do it secretly | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, if I could do it secretly | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} I'd resist the temptation |
<br>{{WWBox}} I find the very idea abhorrent | <br>{{WWBox}} I find the very idea abhorrent | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Läheisiä ei petetä, ei ainakaa ilman todella hyvää syytä''<br><br> |
Do you respect the leaders of your family? | Do you respect the leaders of your family? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Their words guide my actions | <br>{{WWBox}} Their words guide my actions | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} They're role models for me |
<br>{{WWBox}} They're often out of touch with my life | <br>{{WWBox}} They're often out of touch with my life | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} They're out of touch with reality | <br>{{WWBox}} They're out of touch with reality | ||
Rivi 46: | Rivi 46: | ||
If your family had arranged your marriage to someone loathsome, would you: | If your family had arranged your marriage to someone loathsome, would you: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Go through with it, proud to serve your family | <br>{{WWBox}} Go through with it, proud to serve your family | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Agree, hiding your reluctance |
<br>{{WWBox}} Subtly work against the union | <br>{{WWBox}} Subtly work against the union | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Flee | <br>{{WWBox}} Flee | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Ottaisin selvää liiton syistä, ja uhrautuisin klaanin edun hyväksi''<br><br> |
You're estranged from a family member. On his deathbed, he seeks reconciliation. Do you: | You're estranged from a family member. On his deathbed, he seeks reconciliation. Do you: | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Speak to him, but hold your ground |
<br>{{WWBox}} Refuse to speak to him | <br>{{WWBox}} Refuse to speak to him | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Discuss your estrangement openly and without rancor | <br>{{WWBox}} Discuss your estrangement openly and without rancor | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Actively seek reconciliation, and heed his dying words | <br>{{WWBox}} Actively seek reconciliation, and heed his dying words | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Kunnioittaisin perinteiden vuoksi miehen kuolintoivetta, mutta en kääntyisi kannastani, mikäli hänellä ei olisi jotain uutta esitettävää''<br><br> |
=== Relationship to Friends === | === Relationship to Friends === | ||
Rivi 63: | Rivi 63: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Condemn your friend and take the money | <br>{{WWBox}} Condemn your friend and take the money | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Take the money and testify, but try to keep your testimony ineffective | <br>{{WWBox}} Take the money and testify, but try to keep your testimony ineffective | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Refuse the offer and refuse to testify |
<br>{{WWBox}} Testify on your friend's behalf, no matter the consequences | <br>{{WWBox}} Testify on your friend's behalf, no matter the consequences | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''En menisi antamaan väärää valaa, en myöskään ystäväni puolesta. Saattaisin koettaa tehdä jotain tällaiselle lain irvikuvalle.''<br><br> |
Do you become close to friends, or hold most people at a safe distance? | Do you become close to friends, or hold most people at a safe distance? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} I have an abundance of close friends | <br>{{WWBox}} I have an abundance of close friends | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} I have some close friends | <br>{{WWBox}} I have some close friends | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} I have few close friends |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} I try to keep people at a distance |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Odotusarvo tuntemattomalle on, että se luultavasti haluaa minulle jotain pahaa. Kuitenkin, mikäli joku osoittaa olevansa todella kunnollinen.. Ystävyyksiä oli aiemmin, kaipa niitä voi taas teoriassa kehittyä''<br><br> |
Have you ever betrayed a friend? | Have you ever betrayed a friend? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} I've done so more than once, and I sometimes get away with it | <br>{{WWBox}} I've done so more than once, and I sometimes get away with it | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} I've done so once | <br>{{WWBox}} I've done so once | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} I've been tempted to do so, but I've never gone through with it |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} I'd never contemplate such a thing |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''"Ei, ei ja ei. Ei se nyt vaan sovi."''<br><br> |
How do you view lifelong commitment to a single romantic partner? | How do you view lifelong commitment to a single romantic partner? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} I'm waiting to find such a romance | <br>{{WWBox}} I'm waiting to find such a romance | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Such a romance would be ideal -- if it's achievable |
<br>{{WWBox}} I worry I'd miss out on what others have to offer | <br>{{WWBox}} I worry I'd miss out on what others have to offer | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Tie yourself to one person? Huge mistake | <br>{{WWBox}} Tie yourself to one person? Huge mistake | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Phah. Teoriassa kuulostaa hyvältä, ei vaan käytännössä onnistu. Ahjon kautta osoitan Laduguerille suurinta rakkautta mitä osaan''<br><br> |
Do you insist on repayment when lending money to friends? | Do you insist on repayment when lending money to friends? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, and I write up a contract so there's no misunderstanding |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, but I try to be flexible about the exact terms | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, but I try to be flexible about the exact terms | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, although it's sure nice to be repaid | <br>{{WWBox}} No, although it's sure nice to be repaid | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, they just owe me a favor | <br>{{WWBox}} No, they just owe me a favor | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Kyllä suullinenkin sopimus on minun kirjoissani pitävä''<br><br> |
Are you still in touch with childhood friends? | Are you still in touch with childhood friends? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, we correspond regularly | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, we correspond regularly | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, we try to keep in touch |
<br>{{WWBox}} No, I move around too much | <br>{{WWBox}} No, I move around too much | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, I don't have anything in common with them anymore | <br>{{WWBox}} No, I don't have anything in common with them anymore | ||
+ | <br>''Olisin, mutta se ei ulkoisista tekijöiden vuoksi ole enää mahdollista''<br><br> | ||
=== Relationship to Community === | === Relationship to Community === | ||
Do you donate time and money to improve the local community? | Do you donate time and money to improve the local community? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, the needs of the community are my top priority |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, I donate as much as I can once my own needs are met | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, I donate as much as I can once my own needs are met | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, I don't have enough time or money to spare | <br>{{WWBox}} No, I don't have enough time or money to spare | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, my local community would be a waste of time and money | <br>{{WWBox}} No, my local community would be a waste of time and money | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Klaanin etu on minun etuni. Ihmisten yhteisöt ovat tietenkin täysin eri asia, varsinkin niin kauan kun ei ole edes oikeasti niiden jäsen.''<br><br> |
Your community is threatened with invasion. Do you: | Your community is threatened with invasion. Do you: | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Help defend it to your last breath |
<br>{{WWBox}} Man the barricades with the rest of the community | <br>{{WWBox}} Man the barricades with the rest of the community | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Flee as soon as things look grim | <br>{{WWBox}} Flee as soon as things look grim | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Cut a deal with the invaders to act as a spy | <br>{{WWBox}} Cut a deal with the invaders to act as a spy | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Ja vihaisin pettureita ja pelkureita verisesti''<br><br> |
If you were injured and required immediate assistance, would members of your home community agree to help? | If you were injured and required immediate assistance, would members of your home community agree to help? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, because they know I'd do the same for them |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because I'm generally well liked | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because I'm generally well liked | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Probably not, because I'm distrusted by the powers that be | <br>{{WWBox}} Probably not, because I'm distrusted by the powers that be | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Definitely not. I've made some enemies here | <br>{{WWBox}} Definitely not. I've made some enemies here | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Oma klaani pitäisi tietenkin huolta, toiset klaanit sopimusten ja yhteisen edun takia.''<br><br> |
Do you respect the laws and authorities in the community? | Do you respect the laws and authorities in the community? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, without question |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, they're generally the best way to govern |
<br>{{WWBox}} When it suits me -- there are some laws I just don't agree with | <br>{{WWBox}} When it suits me -- there are some laws I just don't agree with | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} I don't pay attention to the authorities; they've got no hold on me | <br>{{WWBox}} I don't pay attention to the authorities; they've got no hold on me | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Vain hyvin harvoin olen edes pohtinut kääpiölakien oikeellisuutta. Muiden lait sitten, niissähän on vaikka kuinka vikaa..''<br><br> |
Do members of the community shun, avoid, or mock you? | Do members of the community shun, avoid, or mock you? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, their small minds can't handle anyone outside the norm | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, their small minds can't handle anyone outside the norm | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Some do, because I don't always fit in |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No, I'm generally seen as normal |
<br>{{WWBox}} No, I set the standard for what is normal in my community | <br>{{WWBox}} No, I set the standard for what is normal in my community | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Klaanimme puuhaili tulikiven ja minä alkemian kanssa, oltiinhan me vähän rajatapauksia''<br><br> |
Would you stand for office or seek to represent the interests of the community in some public manner? | Would you stand for office or seek to represent the interests of the community in some public manner? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} To do so would be an honor I'd joyously accept | <br>{{WWBox}} To do so would be an honor I'd joyously accept | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Of course. It's everyone's duty to do so |
<br>{{WWBox}} Only if no one else could handle the job | <br>{{WWBox}} Only if no one else could handle the job | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, I don't want to be responsible for the community's welfare | <br>{{WWBox}} No, I don't want to be responsible for the community's welfare | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Voisin olla paljon kunnianhimoisempi''<br><br> |
=== Relationship to King and Country === | === Relationship to King and Country === | ||
Rivi 149: | Rivi 150: | ||
Your country is wracked with famine. Would you: | Your country is wracked with famine. Would you: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Share what food you had with others | <br>{{WWBox}} Share what food you had with others | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Eat as little as possible yourself, and share the rest |
<br>{{WWBox}} Steal what food you needed to survive | <br>{{WWBox}} Steal what food you needed to survive | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Steal as much food as possible, then sell it back to the community at a high price | <br>{{WWBox}} Steal as much food as possible, then sell it back to the community at a high price | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''klaanin etu yada yada''<br><br> |
If offered enough money, would you slip a poison into your king's drink? | If offered enough money, would you slip a poison into your king's drink? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, and I've done similar things before |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, if I thought I could get away with it |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No, although a vast sum of money would tempt me |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No, and I'd warn the king of the plot |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Mikäli klaanin etu vaatisi kuninkaan eliminointia, sen voisi tehdä myös myrkyllä. En murhaa edetäkseni uralla, mutta muista syistä voin sen tehdä''<br><br> |
A plague is sweeping across your country. Would you: | A plague is sweeping across your country. Would you: | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Undertake a dangerous mission to find a cure |
<br>{{WWBox}} Heal the sick as best you can | <br>{{WWBox}} Heal the sick as best you can | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Avoid contact with the sick | <br>{{WWBox}} Avoid contact with the sick | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Flee the country | <br>{{WWBox}} Flee the country | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Karkuun en lähtisi, vaan koettaisin auttaa veljiäni''<br><br> |
Do you respect the lawful authority of the rulers of the land? | Do you respect the lawful authority of the rulers of the land? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes. Long live the queen! |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, our rulers are generally fair and just | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, our rulers are generally fair and just | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, a ruler is no better than anyone else | <br>{{WWBox}} No, a ruler is no better than anyone else | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, rulers are invariably corrupted by power | <br>{{WWBox}} No, rulers are invariably corrupted by power | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Hallitsijat kantavat suurimman vastuun kansalle''<br><br> |
If you were offered a reasonably lucrative deal, would you spy for a hostile foreign power? | If you were offered a reasonably lucrative deal, would you spy for a hostile foreign power? | ||
Rivi 179: | Rivi 180: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because my nation's secrets mean little to me | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because my nation's secrets mean little to me | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, because I might get caught | <br>{{WWBox}} No, because I might get caught | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No, because I'd never violate the trust my nation put in me |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''En ole petturi''<br><br> |
Do you rely on the government to enforce contracts and property rights? | Do you rely on the government to enforce contracts and property rights? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, because maintaining the rule of law is more important than any individual dispute |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because the courts are best equipped to handle such disputes | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because the courts are best equipped to handle such disputes | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Are you kidding me? The government can't even pave roads | <br>{{WWBox}} Are you kidding me? The government can't even pave roads | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Absolutely not. If I can't defend it myself, I don't deserve to have it |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Mikäli yhteisö ei voi suojella kansalaisiaan toisiltaan, ja kansalaisten yksityisomaisutta, yhteisössä on jotain pahasti vialla. Ihmisten yhteiskunnat nyt yllättäen ovat ihan kuraa..''<br><br> |
=== Thoughts on Crime and Punishment === | === Thoughts on Crime and Punishment === | ||
Rivi 193: | Rivi 194: | ||
If imprisoned, would you injure or kill others to escape? | If imprisoned, would you injure or kill others to escape? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes. Serves 'em right for locking me up | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes. Serves 'em right for locking me up | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes. They knew the risks when they took the job |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No, except for minor wounds that will heal easily |
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No. Those guards are just doing their jobs |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Asiallisen yhteisön asiallista pidätystä en tietenkään vastustaisi. Toisaalta, mikäli jokin rosvojoukko vangitsisi taistelun jälkeen ja onnistuisin vapautumaan, niin kyllä siinä saattaisi joltakulta henki lähteä kun pyrkisin vastavuoroisesti vapaaksi tai vangitsemaan hyökkääjät.''<br><br> |
Do you accept a noble's right to treat badly the serfs who work on his land? | Do you accept a noble's right to treat badly the serfs who work on his land? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes. They're lucky they're not slaves | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes. They're lucky they're not slaves | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, because sometimes only fear will motivate them |
<br>{{WWBox}} No, nobles should rule as kindly as possible | <br>{{WWBox}} No, nobles should rule as kindly as possible | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No one has any "right" to treat another badly. Period | <br>{{WWBox}} No one has any "right" to treat another badly. Period | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Uskon löyhästi rotuoppiin: on olemassa parempia ja huonompia rotuja. Varsinkaan perinteiseen ja pitkään jatkuneeseen orjuuteen minulla ei ole mitään sanomista. Tämä ei ''tietenkään'' päde illithid/duergar-tilanteeseen |
+ | ''<br><br> | ||
You have accidentally committed a crime. Do you: | You have accidentally committed a crime. Do you: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Confess, and attempt to make restitution to the victim | <br>{{WWBox}} Confess, and attempt to make restitution to the victim | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Confess, throwing yourself on the mercy of the court |
<br>{{WWBox}} Hide your involvement, lying if you have to | <br>{{WWBox}} Hide your involvement, lying if you have to | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Try to pin the crime on another | <br>{{WWBox}} Try to pin the crime on another | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Aijjai, pahasti tuli tehtyä, mutta luotetaan oikeuskoneistoon''<br><br> |
If guilty, would you confess to a crime? | If guilty, would you confess to a crime? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, because it is my duty to do so |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because it might get me a lighter sentence | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because it might get me a lighter sentence | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, I'd make the magistrates prove my guilt | <br>{{WWBox}} No, I'd make the magistrates prove my guilt | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, and I'd try to "prove" my innocence | <br>{{WWBox}} No, and I'd try to "prove" my innocence | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Eihän tuollaisesta nyt ''valehdellakaan'' voi''<br><br> |
Would you express a revolutionary political opinion if threatened with punishment? | Would you express a revolutionary political opinion if threatened with punishment? | ||
Rivi 224: | Rivi 226: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, although I might privately express my opinion to friends | <br>{{WWBox}} No, although I might privately express my opinion to friends | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} No, politics aren't worth getting worked up about | <br>{{WWBox}} No, politics aren't worth getting worked up about | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Vallankumous ei tule helposti minulle mieleen, mutta jos se täytyy tehdä, niin ei siitä ainakaan oikein hiljaa osaisi olla''<br><br> |
While traveling, you witness an assault. You are ordered to testify, which will delay your travel significantly. Do you: | While traveling, you witness an assault. You are ordered to testify, which will delay your travel significantly. Do you: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Slip out of town at night to avoid testifying | <br>{{WWBox}} Slip out of town at night to avoid testifying | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Deny you saw anything | <br>{{WWBox}} Deny you saw anything | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Remain reluctantly, testify, and leave |
<br>{{WWBox}} Remain until the trial's conclusion in case further testimony is needed | <br>{{WWBox}} Remain until the trial's conclusion in case further testimony is needed | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''jään pidemmäksikin aikaa jos on oikeasti tarvetta''<br><br> |
=== Thoughts on Business and the Economy === | === Thoughts on Business and the Economy === | ||
Rivi 237: | Rivi 239: | ||
What is the best use of wealth? | What is the best use of wealth? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} To help the destitute and less fortunate | <br>{{WWBox}} To help the destitute and less fortunate | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Provide for the needs of friends and family |
<br>{{WWBox}} To stay on top of the heap yourself | <br>{{WWBox}} To stay on top of the heap yourself | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} To not only stay on top, but keep others from climbing to your level |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Klaanin etu on kaikkien etu, ja hyvin toteutettu oma etu on klaanin etu''<br><br> |
When confronted by beggars, do you: | When confronted by beggars, do you: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Give generously | <br>{{WWBox}} Give generously | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Give moderately | <br>{{WWBox}} Give moderately | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Give only what I wouldn't miss anyway -- a copper or two at most |
<br>{{WWBox}} Ignore them as you walk by | <br>{{WWBox}} Ignore them as you walk by | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Harmaakääpiöiden parissa kerjääminen on suht tuntematon käsite. Jokaisen tulisi pärjätä omien käsiensä ja klaaninsa avun turvin''<br><br> |
By using magic, you could fool village merchants into thinking your copper pieces were made of gold. Do you? | By using magic, you could fool village merchants into thinking your copper pieces were made of gold. Do you? | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, and I'll buy as much as I can | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, and I'll buy as much as I can | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, but I'll only cheat the rich merchants | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, but I'll only cheat the rich merchants | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} No, it's too risky |
<br>{{WWBox}} No, those merchants have families to feed | <br>{{WWBox}} No, those merchants have families to feed | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''En lähde huijailemaan ilman todella hyviä syitä. Kulta joka ei edes kuulu minulle ei todellakaan riitä''<br><br> |
You have two job offers. One pays more, but the other is secure and steady. Which do you choose? | You have two job offers. One pays more, but the other is secure and steady. Which do you choose? | ||
Rivi 260: | Rivi 262: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Probably the lucrative job, although I'd look into the secure job | <br>{{WWBox}} Probably the lucrative job, although I'd look into the secure job | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} The secure job, unless the other job was outrageously lucrative | <br>{{WWBox}} The secure job, unless the other job was outrageously lucrative | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Definitely the secure job, because I plan for the long term |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Tasaista ja turvallista''<br><br> |
What's the best path to wealth? | What's the best path to wealth? | ||
Rivi 267: | Rivi 269: | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Staying flexible so you can take advantage of good opportunities | <br>{{WWBox}} Staying flexible so you can take advantage of good opportunities | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} Following a long-term plan that incorporates a comfortable level of risk | <br>{{WWBox}} Following a long-term plan that incorporates a comfortable level of risk | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Hard work and perseverance |
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''16h työpäivät ja sillee. Laduguer palkitsee ahkeruuden ja periksiantamattomuuden''<br><br> |
If you accepted a job or contract, would you try to finish the task even if it got much more dangerous? | If you accepted a job or contract, would you try to finish the task even if it got much more dangerous? | ||
− | <br>{{ | + | <br>{{WWBoxF}} Yes, my word is my bond |
<br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because it's good to have a reputation for dependability | <br>{{WWBox}} Yes, because it's good to have a reputation for dependability | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} You can bet I'd be renegotiating | <br>{{WWBox}} You can bet I'd be renegotiating | ||
<br>{{WWBox}} If it's no longer a good deal, then the deal is off | <br>{{WWBox}} If it's no longer a good deal, then the deal is off | ||
− | <br>'' | + | <br>''Koska oma sana on niin tärkeä, sitä ei myöskään halua antaa helposti''<br><br> |
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== Historia == | == Historia == |
Versio 1. tammikuuta 2008 kello 22.27
Sisällysluettelo
Oikea luonne
LN, kuten hahmosivulla sanotaan.
Uskollinen uskovainen Ladugueristi.
- LN:n speksaus
- käsitöiden arvostaminen
- johonkin alignment-testiin vastaaminen
- oma säännöstö
Gerður arvostaa suuresti käsitöitä ja kädentaitojen omaamista. Gerður arvostaa myös yksityisomaisuutta. Gerður sietää (harmaa)kääpiöiden loukkaamista erittäin huonosti. Gerður arvostaa perinteitä.
Gerðurin ulosanti on parhaimmillaankin "töksähtelevää" - ts hän toteaa asiat suoraan eikä riittävästi toista huomioon ottaen.
Gerður on oppinut, että toisin kuin duergarien parissa, joilla oli tekopyhä "seksuaalinen tasa-arvo", maanpäällisessa maailmassa naisen asema on lähtökohtaisesti paljon miestä huonompi. Gerður kuitenkin itse suhtautuu sukupuoliasioihin oman kulttuuritaustansa mukaan. Näinollen Gerður voisi ystävällisyyden puuskassa todeta jollekin kunnioitusta hänessä herättäneelle ihmisnaiselle, että "onpa hienoa, että sinulla menee noin hyvin, vaikka olet syntynyt naiseksi".
Alignment-testi
Relationship to Family
Family elders are expressing disapproval of you to the rest of the family. Do you:
Accept the criticism and change your ways
Seek a compromise with the elders
Besmirch the reputation of the elders as you ignore their scorn
Silence the elders any way you can
Vanhat johtajat ovat viisaita, ja heidän neuvojaan noudatetaan kiitollisna. Vihainen ja tulinen palaute omista toimista Vanhimmilta on kunnon klaanilaiselle todella paha asia.
Would you give up a promising career to aid the family in time of need?
In a heartbeat
Yes, with some reluctance
Only if I was certain I'd be able to return to my career soon
No
Haluan menestyä, mutta tietenkin klaani tulee ensimmäisenä
Would you betray a family member to advance your own career?
Yes, without a twinge of guilt
Yes, if I could do it secretly
I'd resist the temptation
I find the very idea abhorrent
Läheisiä ei petetä, ei ainakaa ilman todella hyvää syytä
Do you respect the leaders of your family?
Their words guide my actions
They're role models for me
They're often out of touch with my life
They're out of touch with reality
selitys
If your family had arranged your marriage to someone loathsome, would you:
Go through with it, proud to serve your family
Agree, hiding your reluctance
Subtly work against the union
Flee
Ottaisin selvää liiton syistä, ja uhrautuisin klaanin edun hyväksi
You're estranged from a family member. On his deathbed, he seeks reconciliation. Do you:
Speak to him, but hold your ground
Refuse to speak to him
Discuss your estrangement openly and without rancor
Actively seek reconciliation, and heed his dying words
Kunnioittaisin perinteiden vuoksi miehen kuolintoivetta, mutta en kääntyisi kannastani, mikäli hänellä ei olisi jotain uutta esitettävää
Relationship to Friends
A powerful but corrupt judge offers you wealth if you'll testify against a friend. Do you:
Condemn your friend and take the money
Take the money and testify, but try to keep your testimony ineffective
Refuse the offer and refuse to testify
Testify on your friend's behalf, no matter the consequences
En menisi antamaan väärää valaa, en myöskään ystäväni puolesta. Saattaisin koettaa tehdä jotain tällaiselle lain irvikuvalle.
Do you become close to friends, or hold most people at a safe distance?
I have an abundance of close friends
I have some close friends
I have few close friends
I try to keep people at a distance
Odotusarvo tuntemattomalle on, että se luultavasti haluaa minulle jotain pahaa. Kuitenkin, mikäli joku osoittaa olevansa todella kunnollinen.. Ystävyyksiä oli aiemmin, kaipa niitä voi taas teoriassa kehittyä
Have you ever betrayed a friend?
I've done so more than once, and I sometimes get away with it
I've done so once
I've been tempted to do so, but I've never gone through with it
I'd never contemplate such a thing
"Ei, ei ja ei. Ei se nyt vaan sovi."
How do you view lifelong commitment to a single romantic partner?
I'm waiting to find such a romance
Such a romance would be ideal -- if it's achievable
I worry I'd miss out on what others have to offer
Tie yourself to one person? Huge mistake
Phah. Teoriassa kuulostaa hyvältä, ei vaan käytännössä onnistu. Ahjon kautta osoitan Laduguerille suurinta rakkautta mitä osaan
Do you insist on repayment when lending money to friends?
Yes, and I write up a contract so there's no misunderstanding
Yes, but I try to be flexible about the exact terms
No, although it's sure nice to be repaid
No, they just owe me a favor
Kyllä suullinenkin sopimus on minun kirjoissani pitävä
Are you still in touch with childhood friends?
Yes, we correspond regularly
Yes, we try to keep in touch
No, I move around too much
No, I don't have anything in common with them anymore
Olisin, mutta se ei ulkoisista tekijöiden vuoksi ole enää mahdollista
Relationship to Community
Do you donate time and money to improve the local community?
Yes, the needs of the community are my top priority
Yes, I donate as much as I can once my own needs are met
No, I don't have enough time or money to spare
No, my local community would be a waste of time and money
Klaanin etu on minun etuni. Ihmisten yhteisöt ovat tietenkin täysin eri asia, varsinkin niin kauan kun ei ole edes oikeasti niiden jäsen.
Your community is threatened with invasion. Do you:
Help defend it to your last breath
Man the barricades with the rest of the community
Flee as soon as things look grim
Cut a deal with the invaders to act as a spy
Ja vihaisin pettureita ja pelkureita verisesti
If you were injured and required immediate assistance, would members of your home community agree to help?
Yes, because they know I'd do the same for them
Yes, because I'm generally well liked
Probably not, because I'm distrusted by the powers that be
Definitely not. I've made some enemies here
Oma klaani pitäisi tietenkin huolta, toiset klaanit sopimusten ja yhteisen edun takia.
Do you respect the laws and authorities in the community?
Yes, without question
Yes, they're generally the best way to govern
When it suits me -- there are some laws I just don't agree with
I don't pay attention to the authorities; they've got no hold on me
Vain hyvin harvoin olen edes pohtinut kääpiölakien oikeellisuutta. Muiden lait sitten, niissähän on vaikka kuinka vikaa..
Do members of the community shun, avoid, or mock you?
Yes, their small minds can't handle anyone outside the norm
Some do, because I don't always fit in
No, I'm generally seen as normal
No, I set the standard for what is normal in my community
Klaanimme puuhaili tulikiven ja minä alkemian kanssa, oltiinhan me vähän rajatapauksia
Would you stand for office or seek to represent the interests of the community in some public manner?
To do so would be an honor I'd joyously accept
Of course. It's everyone's duty to do so
Only if no one else could handle the job
No, I don't want to be responsible for the community's welfare
Voisin olla paljon kunnianhimoisempi
Relationship to King and Country
Your country is wracked with famine. Would you:
Share what food you had with others
Eat as little as possible yourself, and share the rest
Steal what food you needed to survive
Steal as much food as possible, then sell it back to the community at a high price
klaanin etu yada yada
If offered enough money, would you slip a poison into your king's drink?
Yes, and I've done similar things before
Yes, if I thought I could get away with it
No, although a vast sum of money would tempt me
No, and I'd warn the king of the plot
Mikäli klaanin etu vaatisi kuninkaan eliminointia, sen voisi tehdä myös myrkyllä. En murhaa edetäkseni uralla, mutta muista syistä voin sen tehdä
A plague is sweeping across your country. Would you:
Undertake a dangerous mission to find a cure
Heal the sick as best you can
Avoid contact with the sick
Flee the country
Karkuun en lähtisi, vaan koettaisin auttaa veljiäni
Do you respect the lawful authority of the rulers of the land?
Yes. Long live the queen!
Yes, our rulers are generally fair and just
No, a ruler is no better than anyone else
No, rulers are invariably corrupted by power
Hallitsijat kantavat suurimman vastuun kansalle
If you were offered a reasonably lucrative deal, would you spy for a hostile foreign power?
Yes, because my nation could stand to be knocked down a peg
Yes, because my nation's secrets mean little to me
No, because I might get caught
No, because I'd never violate the trust my nation put in me
En ole petturi
Do you rely on the government to enforce contracts and property rights?
Yes, because maintaining the rule of law is more important than any individual dispute
Yes, because the courts are best equipped to handle such disputes
Are you kidding me? The government can't even pave roads
Absolutely not. If I can't defend it myself, I don't deserve to have it
Mikäli yhteisö ei voi suojella kansalaisiaan toisiltaan, ja kansalaisten yksityisomaisutta, yhteisössä on jotain pahasti vialla. Ihmisten yhteiskunnat nyt yllättäen ovat ihan kuraa..
Thoughts on Crime and Punishment
If imprisoned, would you injure or kill others to escape?
Yes. Serves 'em right for locking me up
Yes. They knew the risks when they took the job
No, except for minor wounds that will heal easily
No. Those guards are just doing their jobs
Asiallisen yhteisön asiallista pidätystä en tietenkään vastustaisi. Toisaalta, mikäli jokin rosvojoukko vangitsisi taistelun jälkeen ja onnistuisin vapautumaan, niin kyllä siinä saattaisi joltakulta henki lähteä kun pyrkisin vastavuoroisesti vapaaksi tai vangitsemaan hyökkääjät.
Do you accept a noble's right to treat badly the serfs who work on his land?
Yes. They're lucky they're not slaves
Yes, because sometimes only fear will motivate them
No, nobles should rule as kindly as possible
No one has any "right" to treat another badly. Period
Uskon löyhästi rotuoppiin: on olemassa parempia ja huonompia rotuja. Varsinkaan perinteiseen ja pitkään jatkuneeseen orjuuteen minulla ei ole mitään sanomista. Tämä ei tietenkään päde illithid/duergar-tilanteeseen
You have accidentally committed a crime. Do you:
Confess, and attempt to make restitution to the victim
Confess, throwing yourself on the mercy of the court
Hide your involvement, lying if you have to
Try to pin the crime on another
Aijjai, pahasti tuli tehtyä, mutta luotetaan oikeuskoneistoon
If guilty, would you confess to a crime?
Yes, because it is my duty to do so
Yes, because it might get me a lighter sentence
No, I'd make the magistrates prove my guilt
No, and I'd try to "prove" my innocence
Eihän tuollaisesta nyt valehdellakaan voi
Would you express a revolutionary political opinion if threatened with punishment?
Yes, I'd rather be punished than remain silent. Up the revolution!
Yes. Somebody's got to speak the truth
No, although I might privately express my opinion to friends
No, politics aren't worth getting worked up about
Vallankumous ei tule helposti minulle mieleen, mutta jos se täytyy tehdä, niin ei siitä ainakaan oikein hiljaa osaisi olla
While traveling, you witness an assault. You are ordered to testify, which will delay your travel significantly. Do you:
Slip out of town at night to avoid testifying
Deny you saw anything
Remain reluctantly, testify, and leave
Remain until the trial's conclusion in case further testimony is needed
jään pidemmäksikin aikaa jos on oikeasti tarvetta
Thoughts on Business and the Economy
What is the best use of wealth?
To help the destitute and less fortunate
Provide for the needs of friends and family
To stay on top of the heap yourself
To not only stay on top, but keep others from climbing to your level
Klaanin etu on kaikkien etu, ja hyvin toteutettu oma etu on klaanin etu
When confronted by beggars, do you:
Give generously
Give moderately
Give only what I wouldn't miss anyway -- a copper or two at most
Ignore them as you walk by
Harmaakääpiöiden parissa kerjääminen on suht tuntematon käsite. Jokaisen tulisi pärjätä omien käsiensä ja klaaninsa avun turvin
By using magic, you could fool village merchants into thinking your copper pieces were made of gold. Do you?
Yes, and I'll buy as much as I can
Yes, but I'll only cheat the rich merchants
No, it's too risky
No, those merchants have families to feed
En lähde huijailemaan ilman todella hyviä syitä. Kulta joka ei edes kuulu minulle ei todellakaan riitä
You have two job offers. One pays more, but the other is secure and steady. Which do you choose?
Definitely the lucrative job; steady work sounds like drudgery
Probably the lucrative job, although I'd look into the secure job
The secure job, unless the other job was outrageously lucrative
Definitely the secure job, because I plan for the long term
Tasaista ja turvallista
What's the best path to wealth?
It's a matter of luck and being in the right place at the right time
Staying flexible so you can take advantage of good opportunities
Following a long-term plan that incorporates a comfortable level of risk
Hard work and perseverance
16h työpäivät ja sillee. Laduguer palkitsee ahkeruuden ja periksiantamattomuuden
If you accepted a job or contract, would you try to finish the task even if it got much more dangerous?
Yes, my word is my bond
Yes, because it's good to have a reputation for dependability
You can bet I'd be renegotiating
If it's no longer a good deal, then the deal is off
Koska oma sana on niin tärkeä, sitä ei myöskään halua antaa helposti
Historia
Lapsuus alkoi ja sujui jotenkin. Mustakääpiöyhteisössä, hmm. Pitää kai speksata itse klaani, ja sen jälkeen miettiä. Todnäk yhteisö oli ainakin melko uskonnollinen (ts ei höpötystä jumaliin uskomattomuudesta).
Klaani-aika meni perinteiseen tapaan. Gerður oli kunnon kääpiö, ja päätyi hyväksi sepäksi. Hieman epäilyttävä se kuitenkin oli, sillä vanhemmiten opiskeli myös alkemiaa ja sitä kautta lueskeli myös kirjoja magiasta. Gerður oppi myös uskolliseksi Ladugueristiksi.
Mikäli Gerður myöhemmin petettiin, tässä vaiheessa hän ystävystyi pettäjän kanssa.
Klaanista poistuminen oli äkillinen ja murskaavan nopea kokemus. Gerður joko
- häädettiin klaanista (koska hänet petettiin ja lavastettiin syyttömänä syylliseksi), tai
- saapui klaaninsa raunioille, ja vannoi kostoa
Yksi mahdollinen tarina on se, että Gerðurin (vanhempi) veli tappoi koko klaanin, ja jätti vain Gerðurin henkiin.. jotta tämä voisi "kehityttyään riittävästi haastaa veljensä".
Ihmisten mailla Gerður asusteli Rautarinteen kaupungissa FIX vuotta. Tänne Gerður oikeastaan vaan päätyi, harhaili, koska ei tiennyt mitä muutakaan tehdä. Mietti, pohti, kasaili ajatuksiaan ja suunnitelmiaan. Samalla hän teki sitä mitä parhaiten osasi: rakenteli, korjaili, loi.
Rautarinteessä Gerður oppi paljon ihmisistä ja muistakin kansoista. Heidän lyöntinsä tekevät kipeää, potkunsa sattuvat, joten kannattaa pysyä niistä erossa. Silloin kun niiden kanssa on pakko tehdä kauppaa, pidetään oma naama piilossa.
Gerður pisti pienen pajan pystyyn kaupungin surkeahkoon osaan, ja myi palveluksiaan kauppiaan kautta, joka vei välistä ainakin puolet Gerðurin voitoista.
Täällä Gerður tutustui Kiraliin.
Mikäli on tarpeen, Gerður on tämän jälkeen vaihtanut maisemaa (ja tutustunut näin johonkin hahmoon).
TODO/auki:
- klaanin speksaus
- klaanille tapahtunut tuho
- yhteydet muiden hahmoihin
- klaanin suhtautuminen tuliaseisiin, ja Gerðurin tutustuminen niihin
Klaanista:
- 40 % LE, 40% LN, 5% LG, 4% NE, 4% N, 2% NG, 3% CE, 1% CN, 1% CG
- = 85% lawfuleita, 47% pahoja, 8% hyviä, 5% kaoottisia
- painotetaan perinnettä, klaanin jatkuvuutta ja selviämisen tärkeyttä, käsitöitä
- henkilökohtaisilla saavutuksilla on merkitystä
- eniten kunnioitetaan henkilökohtaista saavutusta klaanin hyväksi
- suhtautuminen magiaan?
- yleinen suhtautuminen tunteisiin on niiden kontrollointi ja suppressointi
- suhteet vanhempiin formaaleja ja ihmisiin verrattuna etäisiä, "yksi klaani yksi valtio" taotaan päähän lapsesta lähtien
- klaanin sisällä kullakin on tehtävänsä, myös sillä tyypillä (yleensä nainen) joka pitää huolta lapsista
Lawful Evil duergar-näkökulmasta: äärimmäistä utilitarismia tehokkuusnäkökulmasta (usein myös klaanin sekä henkilökohtaisen edun kasvattaminen huomioon otettuna)
Lawful Neutral duergar-näkökulmasta: kevyempää utilitarismia "moraali ja hyvyys", yksilön arvo jne huomioon ottaen.
Sekalaiset salaiset jutut
Jokin maaginen perintökalleus (enimmäkseen piilossa)? Maaginen taontavasara?
Peliteknisiä asioita
hahmon rooli peliteknisesti
Alkuun aloittaa ansanpurkajana, asioiden tietäjänä. Osaa myös erikoisia asioita (craftit) joista saattaa olla yllättävissä tilanteissa hyötyä.
Tavoitteena tuoda pikku hiljaa enemmän ja enemmän taistelun suhteen "blästimistä" mukaan. Eli warmage-tyyppisesti paljon lämää kerran rundissa, yhteen tai mahdollisesti myöhemmin useaan kohteeseen.
3 hd
3 x d8, bab 2, ref bad, fort will good, trapfinding, kaksi bonus-feattia, 4 + int
flawiksi voisi ottaa vaikka.. forti-seivi-miikan? tai ac-miikan. tai jotain.
käytännössä hahmo olisi:
- f int-bonuksen verran crafteja yhdellä craftilla, ts moni-osaaja
- 1 pb shot
- 3 precise shot
- b1 quick load
- b2 quicker load
skilleissä olisi: craftit (yhteensä 5), spellcraft, knowledge (arcana), disable device, open lock, search
spot? appraise? decipher script? disguise? knowledge (local), knowledge (geography), knowledge (history)
sosiaaliset skillit (20): sense motive 8, bluff 2, diplomacy 4, intimidate 6
Tällä setupilla olisi suht tehokas ammuskelija, heikko ac (tosin adamantium-paita), suht hyvä löytämään ansoja ja varsin tietävä ja osaava tyyppi.
Kolmoslevelin dödö-hahmoon verrattuna heikko, ykkös-levelin dödö-hahmoon verrattuna voimakas.